The Zeitgeist Movement NYC


The Zeitgeist Movement NYC
IBM Atrium


IBM Atrium
590 Madison Ave · New York City, NY

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May 10 2019


Eastern US Time
6:00 pm - 8:00 pm

After all, what is Democracy? (Part II)

  • What:  Zeitgeist NYC Meetup
  • When: Friday, 10 May 2019 from 6 to 8 pm Eastern Time
  • Where:  Atrium, 590 Madison Avenue, New York, New York 10022-2505
  • Host:  Harry Cason, TZM NYC Chapter

As pointed out last time, most of us appear to take the meaning of Democracy for granted, and consequently we tend to end-up in a confused state (of talking past each other) when deeply embedded in our political discussions.

Since this will be Part Two of our discussion on Democracy and since we had such a good and serious discussion last time, we will less likely fall into this trap. Still we need to continue our practice and thinking on Democracy.

It is again requested that you watch on youtube the short eight and a half (8-1/2) minute video from 1988 entitled ‘Noam Chomsky on Democracy’ before coming in order to further enhance our deep dive into this important discussion, and since we will not be able to show the clip this time.

On the other hand, individuals who did not make Part One should nevertheless feel comfortable attending this session, since a lot of what was said last time will no doubt be repeated.

As last time, a series of proposed democracy assumptions (to be questioned/challenged of course) has been provided below in an effort to help us anchor our common understanding of democracy.

Although we may not come to full agreement as to what democracy is and means, we should at least be clear on what we, as individuals, mean by the use of the term.

In any case, let us honestly do our best to come closer on our meaning of democracy, in the name of Platonic truth seeking.

Looking forward to seeing you there!

Some Assumptions about Democracy

  • Free individuals, with intrinsic worth and creativity, and therefore not wholly products of the social environment.
  • The right of all social members to equally participate in determining the community’s future.
  • A higher degree of cooperation among community members (consensus building) over a competitive, winner take-all approach to decision making.
  • A full set of rights that protects the minority from the majority.
  • Equal opportunity for all members of the community.
  • The individual and social equality of all members of the community.
  • Rule-of-law based on the above assumptions.
  • Fairly equal power relations between social individuals.

Please think about these assumptions and we will discuss them on Friday
May 10.

For those who wish, we will have dinner afterwards.

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